The Domus NEO-PRO recessed downlight is a DALI-dimmable anti-glaredownlight 13W, 25W or35W, 90mm cutout (13W), CRI 80,switchable 3000/4000/5700K, in black or white.

“IP65” here means from the front only

• The datasheet publishes IP65**, and its own footnote reads**IP65 from front only. The product record publishes abare IP65.
• ON A RECESSED DOWNLIGHT THAT FOOTNOTE IS THE WHOLE SPECIFICATION. Front-only means the visible face is sealed against water jets and the body above the ceiling isnot.
• WHICH IS EXACTLY THE QUESTION A BATHROOM OR AN EXTERNAL SOFFIT ASKS. A full IP65 fitting is sealed all round and can sit where water may reach it from above a roof space that gets wind-driven rain, a soffit, a covered outdoor area. A front-only fitting cannot.
• IT IS STILL A USEFUL RATING. Front-only IP65 is what a shower-zonedownlight needs, because the water comes from below and in front and it is a real upgrade on theIP20 or IP44 that most recessed downlights carry. Confirm the zone with your electricianagainst the current wiring rules.
• WE MEASURED HOW WIDESPREAD THE OMISSION IS: 42 products carry a footnotemarker on their sheet’s IP rating, and all 42 records drop the qualifier. What the footnote SAYS varies some qualify the coverage, others a frequency or a luxrange so the measured claim is that the qualifier is lost, not that all 42 meanfront only.

The anti-glare deep-set frame the reason to choose this over a flat downlight

• The LED sits recessed behind a frosted diffuser in a deep frame, with an80 beam.
• GLARE IS A GEOMETRY PROBLEM, NOT A BRIGHTNESS ONE. A flat downlightputs its emitter level with the ceiling, so you see the source from anywhere in the room; a deep-set onehides it until you are almost underneath.
• THAT MATTERS MOST WHERE PEOPLE LOOK UP OR LIE DOWN bedrooms,lounges, and any room with a low ceiling where the fitting is close to the eye-line.
• IT COSTS A LITTLE OUTPUT AND SOME SPREAD. An 80 beam is narrower than the110120 a flat downlight typically gives, so plan the spacing tighter roughly the ceiling heightapart on a 2.4m ceiling rather than 1.5 it.

DALI dimming and why it is a different decision from a wall dimmer

• This version is DALI, a digital addressable protocol, with an integrateddriver on a flex and plug.
• DALI IS NOT A DIMMER YOU BUY AT THE END IT IS A DECISION MADE ATDESIGN. It needs a control line run to every fitting alongside the mains, and a DALIcontroller or gateway; you cannot retrofit it onto a circuit wired for a trailing-edge walldimmer.
• WHAT IT BUYS IS ADDRESSABILITY. Each fitting has its own address, sogroups and scenes are set in software rather than in the wiring which means the lighting layout canbe changed after the ceiling is closed. On a commercial fit-out or a large house thatis the whole argument.
• ON A SINGLE ROOM IT IS USUALLY OVERKILL. Check whether the phase-dimmableversion of the same fitting suits the job before committing to a DALIinfrastructure.
• The sheet notes it is fully dimmable with suitable dimmers suitability is the operative word, and a mismatched dimmer causes flicker and buzz rather than aclean failure.

One sheet covers the 13 W; the 25 W and 35 W have their own

This listing carries six documents three data sheets and three installation manuals,one per wattage. Our triage flags all three installation manuals asCONTRADICTED while all three data sheets are verified. SO READ THE SPECIFICATIONS FROM THE DATA SHEETS AND TREAT THE INSTALLATION MANUALS ASUNCONFIRMED FOR THIS SKU. The figures on this page come from the verifiedsheets. The 13W gives 850/1000/900lm across the three colours from a90mm cutout; the 25W and 35W have their own cutouts and outputs, so confirm thefigure for the wattage you are ordering rather than reading across.

Cutout is the dimension that cannot be corrected

The 13W takes a 90mm cutout. ON A DOWNLIGHT THE CUTOUT IS THE ONE FIGURE TO GET RIGHT BEFORE ANYONE PICKS UP A HOLESAW a hole cut too large cannot be made smaller, and the trim only covers a fewmillimetres. Confirm the cutout for your wattage, not the family’s. Check the plenum depth too: a deep-set anti-glare frame is taller than a flat downlight, and ashallow ceiling void or a joist in the wrong place is discovered from the ladder.

What is published

Where it works

• Shower zones and bathrooms front-only IP65, confirm the zone.
• Low ceilings and bedrooms the deep-set frame hides the source.
• DALI fit-outs addressable, set in software.
• Not where water reaches from above front-only is not all-round.
• Not on a single room DALI is usually overkill.

Specifying it

Recessed anti-glare LED downlight, DALI dimmable. 13 / 25 / 35W at 220240V.13W: 850/1000/900lm at 3000/4000/5700K switchable, 90mm cutout, 80 beam. CRI 80.Frosted diffuser, deep-set anti-glare frame, integrated driver with flex and plug. 3-year warranty. ITS RECORD PUBLISHES A BARE “IP65” WHERE ITS OWN DATASHEET SAYS “IP65 FROM FRONT ONLY”, and ona recessed downlight that footnote is the whole specification: the visible face is sealed and the bodyabove the ceiling is not. That is exactly the question a bathroom or an external soffit asks. It is still auseful rating front-only IP65 is what a shower-zone downlight needs, because the water comes from below but it will not do where water may reach the fitting from above. WE MEASURED THE OMISSION: 42 productscarry a footnote marker on their sheet’s IP rating and all 42 records drop the qualifier.

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Questions

Is it really IP65?

From the front only. Its datasheet publishes IP65 with a footnote reading “IP65 from front only”, and the product record drops that qualifier and publishes a bare IP65. On a recessed downlight the footnote is the whole specification: the visible face is sealed against water jets and the body above the ceiling is not.

Does that matter?

It is exactly the question a bathroom or an external soffit asks. A full IP65 fitting is sealed all round and can sit where water may reach it from above a roof space that gets wind-driven rain, a soffit, a covered outdoor area. A front-only fitting cannot.

So where can I use it?

Front-only IP65 is what a shower-zone downlight needs, because the water comes from below and in front, and it is a real upgrade on the IP20 or IP44 that most recessed downlights carry. Confirm the zone with your electrician against the current wiring rules.

How common is that omission?

42 products carry a footnote marker on their sheet’s IP rating, and all 42 records drop the qualifier. What the footnote says varies though some qualify the coverage, others a frequency or a lux range so the measured claim is that the qualifier is lost, not that all 42 mean “front only”.

What does the anti-glare frame do?

It moves the emitter back from the ceiling plane. Glare is a geometry problem rather than a brightness one a flat downlight puts its emitter level with the ceiling so you see the source from anywhere in the room, where a deep-set one hides it until you are almost underneath. That matters most in bedrooms, lounges and low ceilings. It costs some spread: an 80 degree beam is narrower than the 110 to 120 a flat downlight gives, so plan the spacing tighter.

Is DALI worth it?

It depends on the scale. DALI is not a dimmer you buy at the end it is a decision made at design, because it needs a control line run to every fitting alongside the mains plus a controller or gateway, and you cannot retrofit it onto a circuit wired for a trailing-edge wall dimmer. What it buys is addressability: each fitting has its own address, so groups and scenes are set in software rather than in the wiring, and the layout can change after the ceiling is closed. On a commercial fit-out or a large house that is the whole argument; on a single room it is usually overkill.

Which documents should I trust?

The data sheets. This listing carries six documents three data sheets and three installation manuals, one per wattage and our triage flags all three installation manuals as contradicted while all three data sheets are verified. The figures on this page come from the verified sheets. Confirm the cutout and output for the wattage you are ordering rather than reading across, since the 25W and 35W differ from the 13W.